if people goes rich, but when i think about my family or michelle's family, you know, what made us rich was spending time together and the idea was -- the idea was that, you know, if our families were of good character and had good values and you were willing to work hard, then you could find a job that paid a decent wage, and eventually saving up you could own a home. and you knew that you wouldn't go bankrupt when you got sick because you had some health insurance, and maybe you took a vacation every once in a while, and it wasn't necessarily some fancy vacation at some fancy resort. best vacation i had when i was a kid was we -- my grandmother and my mom and my sister, we traveled around the country on greyhound buses and on trains, and we stayed at howard johnsons and, you know, you -- i was 11 and so if there was any kind of swimming pool it didn't matter how big it was, right, you'd spend the whole day there and then, you know, you were real excited to go to where the vending machine was and the ice machine and -- and get the ice, and that was like a big deal, and you would just s